When to Refinance Rule of Thumb Myths

You've probably found yourself at one time or anotherafter 20 years. Subtracting this from the $227,702.37
wondering whether it was a good time or not towe know you still owe on your CURRENT mortgage
refinance the house. You figure you can consolidateresults in a loss of $74,744.43 after 20 years, IF you
some bills, free up some monthly cash, maybe taketake this refinance.
some cash out...you know...to fix up the house...possiblyBut as you remember from our prior debt consolidation
get that new flat screen TV you've been talkingexample, we still have to account for the $250
about...and then maybe take a vacation with what'smonthly savings over those 20 years as well. So 240
left. Sounds good. It helps the economy, and hopefully itmonths, or 20 years, multiplied by $250 per month in
helps you too.savings equals $60,000. When we combine that with
Like many people, you have probably heard of, or holdthe loss of $74,744.43 from our TIL costs calculation, it
to, a rule of thumb regarding when to refinance thatresults in a total loss of $14,744.43 after 20 years.
appears to have served others, or even yourself, well. IWell, so much for the $200/month & 5 Year Rule
say "appears" precisely because things are notbeing bulletproof. What if you get out of the home or
always what they appear to be. And when it comesmortgage early in the term, do you come out ahead
to when to refinance rules of thumb, you must bewarethen? Sadly, no. In this scenario, the rule FAILS
of simplistic rules. A refinance is likely the LARGESTCOMPLETELY. The loss after 20 years is the
financial transaction you may ever make and two ofHIGHEST this trend line ever climbs. It is climbing, but
the most widely used rules of thumb don't consider theclimbing only halfway out of a hole still leaves you in
big picture. Simple is great, except when it's SIMPLYthe hole. After five years you've lost $20,103.16 and
WRONG.after 15 years you've lost $19,309.81.
When To Refinance Rule Of Thumb Myth #1In this scenario the $200/month & 5 Year Rule
So what are these two when to refinance rule ofwould cost you thousands no matter what you did.
thumb myths, and how is it they can appear to beLike the 2% Rule, I know there are scenarios where
giving you a good deal, while in many cases actuallythis rule can be applied, and it will be financially
costing you thousands? Well the first myth is whatbeneficial, but blindly relying upon either of these rules
many people call the 2% Rule. This rule states that youas a when to refinance rule of thumb is a crap-shoot.
should never refinance into a mortgage that doesn'tHow do you do when you're in Vegas? "Do you feel
reduce your interest rate by at least 2%. And if youlucky...punk? Well DO ya...?"
can refinance into a mortgage with a 2% or greaterThe banks, like casinos, have all run their numbers.
decrease in interest rate, then the monthly savings willThey know the statistics, they know the odds. If you're
add up to long term savings over the life of the newdetermined to come out on top, then you must RUN
loan. In some cases this can be true and in manyTHE NUMBERS.
others it is not. The problem with this rule, as you willSo as a when to refinance rule of thumb, do the 2%
see shortly, is that it is blind to all other loan factorsRule or the $200/month & 5 Year Rule work?
besides rate. Let's take a look at some actual figuresSometimes Yes, and sometimes No. Do they capture
and put this rule to the test.all of the complexities related to refinance costs?
(Note: The figures and calculations below will beCertainly not. Do they serve as reliable when to
explained for those of you that want to learn torefinance rules of thumb to use as a basis for your
calculate refinance costs yourself, as well as for thosenext refinance decision? That's something only you
of you that may not trust my math...LOL. I apologize if Ican answer for yourself, but as for myself, I trust
get too detailed, but I really want YOU to know fornumbers and I am always going to DO THE MATH.
YOURSELF if you're saving money, rather than relyingTo me, a rule that works sometimes is UNRELIABLE,
on a salesman's opinion. This is informationand essentially not a rule at all, it's a myth.
EVERYONE MUST HAVE. As you read this articleThe Best & Only When To Refinance Rule Of
you will learn how to save thousands in the refinanceThumb
market, so it's well worth your time to read eachDO THE MATH. DO THE MATH. DO THE MATH.
section all the way to the end. Also please note thatWhen it comes to home refinancing, you really need to
the Mortgage Payment Calculator mentioned belowsee the process for what it is...possibly the LARGEST
can be found by following the link found at the end offinancial decision affecting your wealth that you will
this article. It is not needed to follow along with thisever make. In one of the above examples the savings
article, unless you wish to double-check theover 15 years exceeded $35,000. That's an EXTRA
calculations.)YEAR'S SALARY for many of us, 2080 hours of
For our example, let's assume 15 years ago you tookwages for which you didn't have to do any work. In
out a fixed rate home mortgage for $195,000 at 8%another example, the losses were twice that over 30
for 30 years. Your CURRENT balance on the loan isyears. Ouch! The only way you can be sure that
$149,720.90. You have 15 years left to go and theyou're saving and not losing is to DO THE MATH.
payment on this mortgage is $1,430.85 per month. IfYou've seen me throwing out all of these trend figures
you input these figures into my Mortgage Paymentfor different points in time, without explanation for how
Calculator you'll see that the TOTAL amount ofI derived them. Now I'm going to show you how to
money you will pay in principal and interest over the lifecalculate your refinance savings or losses for
of this loan is $515,092.47. (This total cost is disclosedYOURSELF.
to you on a lender's Truth-in-Lending Statement (TIL),There are really only five factors involved in comparing
and by law this statement must be provided to you bythe costs of a CURRENT loan to a REFINANCE loan
the lender within 3 business days of application.)for any point in time. They are:
Over 15 years you've made 180 payments of1-Monthly Payments Difference Cost/Savings to date
$1,430.85 for a total of $257,553.00 already paid. If we2-Debt Consolidation Savings to date
subtract what you've already paid from the total3-Remaining Balances Difference
obligation of $515,092.47 we find that you still owe4-Cost of Refinance (Points & Fees)
$257,539.47 for the final 15 years. This number serves5-Term Difference Savings to date
as a good starting point for comparing different loanOur FIRST STEP is to subtract the CURRENT
offers, because you should have your Truth-in-LendingMonthly Payment from the NEW Monthly Payment.
(TIL) Statement early (within 3 days) and it will instantlyExample: $1265.06 (CMP) - $1260.21 (NMP) = $4.85
show if the new loan is substantially more costly thanThe result is a gain of $4.85 per month. If ever this
your current mortgage. But this is NOT the final wordcalculation results in a loss, be sure the number has a
as there are other considerations that vastly affectnegative sign(-).
cost and savings. We'll get to that shortly, but first let'sThe NEXT STEP is to add any Debt Consolidation
continue with our example.Savings to the result of the last calculation.
A lender has offered you a $150,000 fixed rate(Remember, if the last calculation resulted in a loss
mortgage at 6% for 30 years with 2 discount pointsyou're essentially subtracting here, since you're adding
down and $2500 in closing and processing fees. (Aa negative number.)
single discount point is equal to 1% of the loan amount.)Example: $4.85 (MP Savings) + $250 (DC Savings) =
Like many people you may decide to finance the$254.85
points and fees into the loan. For this example we willNow we need to know the point in time you wish to
finance these costs, so our total NEW loan amount willexamine. Let's look at five years out. So that is a total
actually be $155,500, but still at 6% and still for 30of 60 months from now. Since in this example you're
years, and your monthly payment will be $932.31. Usingsaving $254.85 every month that's a total savings of
either my Mortgage Payment Calculator or your TIL$15,291.00. Write this number down in a column.
we can see that the total cost of this new loan isThe NEXT STEP is to determine the Remaining
$335,622.63.Balances for BOTH loans in five years. Using my
So is this refinance going to save you money? It doesMortgage Payment Calculator will help make this
follow the 2% Rule. The lower payment is alsoeasier. In this example, the beginning loan amount on
SAVING you $498.54 every month, but the TIL showsthe CURRENT mortgage was $208,000 at 6% for 30
it COSTS $78,083.16 more to take this loan. So what'syears with zero points and $3000 in closing costs
the deal? Will this loan save you money, or cost youwhich were financed, and you've been in the mortgage
money? The correct answer is...IT DEPENDS.for 15 years. If you input these figures you'll see that
As it happens, one of the most determinate factorsafter 15 years in the mortgage, your CURRENT loan
affecting your wallet in a refinance is TIME. And I don'tbalance is $149,910.62. The amortization table shows
just mean the number of years on your mortgagethat in five more years (20 years into the mortgage)
term. Regarding our example above, I specifically meanyour Remaining Balance will be $113,943.69. Now let's
the length of time you plan on keeping your home orfind out where the NEW loan will be in five years.
mortgage. This is one of those factors that the 2%For this example, input a loan amount of $170,000 at
Rule fails to consider. So why is that so important? It's6% for 20 years. It also has 2 points and $2500 in
because any savings or costs in a refinance areclosing costs, which are being input ONLY because
realized over TIME. The bottom line is constantlythey are being financed. (If you are paying points and
changing as time progresses, you could be savingfees out of pocket, DO NOT include them in this
more and more, or losing more and more.calculator input.) Hit the Calculate button and you'll see
It is true that the above refinance would cost youthat after five years your Remaining Balance is
$78,083.16, but that's only after 30 years. However,$149,337.85. Subtract this NEW Remaining Balance
after only five years, taking the refinance has actuallyfrom the CURRENT Remaining Balance.
SAVED you $3,140.18. If you moved or paid off yourExample: $113,943.69 (CRB) - $149,337.85 (NRB) =
mortgage after five years you'd be ahead of the-$35,394.16* *Notice the result has a negative sign(-).
game. At 10 years you'd still be ahead by $253.16, at 15Add this negative number to the column with the
years you've lost $20,741.16 and at 20 years you've$15,291.00. When you total these numbers it shows a
lost $50,172.85. I'm sure you can see the downwardTOTAL LOSS of -$20,103.16 after five years. In this
trend as time moves on. The monthly paymentexample, this is the FINAL TOTAL after five years.
savings has the most benefit early on in the loan, whileThe last two of the five factors don't apply to this
the slower decline of the principal balanceexample. The Closing Costs don't need to be
progressively nullifies that benefit as time goesdeducted here because they were financed, and their
forward. The impact is substantial, yet the 2% Ruleexpense is accounted for in the Remaining Balance on
doesn't consider either of these two factors.the NEW loan. If we had not financed the points and
Let's give the 2% Rule another test run as a when tofees, then you would determine their total cost and
refinance rule of thumb. We'll use the same scenariowrite it in the column as a negative number, totaling it
as above, but we'll make it a debt consolidationwith the other numbers in the column in order to
refinance that you're considering. This refinance willaccount for the cost. And the last factor, Term
pay off $20,000 in credit card and other consumerDifference Savings, doesn't apply because we are
debt, freeing up the $250 you had been sending in foronly looking five years ahead. This factor has no
monthly payments. So in this case the loan amount willeffect until the term on the CURRENT mortgage has
be $175,900. We're still financing the 2 points andexpired.
closing fees and the rate is still 6%. But now let's makeTo show you how to account for this last factor, let's
the TERM for 15 years. This shorter term makes thecompare the same two loans but look 20 years
monthly payment $1,484.35 which is actually in increaseahead, five years after your CURRENT mortgage has
of $53.50 over your present payment, but whenexpired. The monthly savings of $254.85 multiplied by
combined with the debt consolidation savings of $250,240 months, or 20 years, is $61,164.00. Write this in a
nets you a TOTAL monthly savings of $196.50 everynew column, since it's a new point in time.
month. Using either my Mortgage Payment CalculatorNow the Remaining Balances Difference after 20
or the TIL you will see the total cost of this loan isyears is actually $0.00. The CURRENT loan only had
$267,181.30. Subtracting this from the $257,539.47 we15 years to go and the NEW loan was only for 20
know you still owe on your current mortgage results inyears, so a zero balance minus a zero balance equals
a LOSS of $9,641.83, after 15 years, IF you take thiszero. Write a zero in the column.
refinance.The Closing Costs were financed and therefore
But as I mentioned earlier, this is not the final word asaccounted for, so the only remaining factor is the
there are other considerations. Like what? Well, like theTerm Differences Savings. Since your current
$250 you're saving every month on those paid offmortgage expires in 15 years, but the new mortgage is
debts. We still have to account for that. Thefor 20 years, this is the money you would NOT have
Truth-in-Lending statement only shows costs related toto pay for the final five years if you STAY in your
mortgage payments and loan balances over time.CURRENT mortgage. Your CURRENT monthly
Now since our CURRENT loan has 15 years left andpayment is $1265.06 and NOT paying that for 60
our NEW loan is for 15 years, the loan balances wouldmonths would save you $75,903.60. This number is
reach zero at the same time, so after 15 years thealso written in the column, but as a negative since this
costs related to loan balances are the same. Thisis a loss you realize by taking this refinance. Total up
means the only cost shown in our TIL comparisonthe $61,164.00 and the $0.00 and the -$75,903.60 and
above comes from the change in monthly payment.you'll get a FINAL TOTAL LOSS of -$14,739.60 after
That's why if you multiply the loss of $53.50 over 18020 years or the life of the loan.
months (15 years) the resulting total loss of $9,630 isYou can even double check this by using the TIL cost
basically IDENTICAL to the loss of $9,641.83 shown incalculation as demonstrated at the beginning of this
our TIL comparison. (While it's a negligible amount, thearticle.
reason for the difference is that the FINAL paymentExample: $227,702.38 (Remaining Cost) - $302,446.81
on a loan is almost always lower than the NORMAL(New Cost) = -$74,744.43
monthly payment, where our calculation assumes allThis example's total loss is -$74,744.43 after 20 years.
180 payments were the same.)We already know the TIL can't account for Debt
Now, back to accounting for the otherConsolidation Savings, so in order to make a true
consideration--the debt consolidation savings. Whencomparison we need to account for those savings.
we multiply the monthly savings of $250 over 180Now $250 a month over 240 months, or 20 years, is
months, or 15 years, the resulting total is $45,000.00.$60,000.00. When we add that $60,000.00 Debt
When combined with the loss of $9,641.83 we findConsolidation Savings to the TIL costs calculation result
you've actually saved $35,358.17 after 15 years!in the example above, the total result is a loss of
So the 2% Rule is in effect, and we can demonstrate-$14,744.43--nearly identical to the FINAL TOTAL
some pretty substantial savings over the life of theLOSS of -$14,739.60 we were double checking. This is
loan. Does that mean that using the 2% Rule in thisproof of the accuracy of this method and I hope you
case will definitely save you money? Again...ITcan see it's value.
DEPENDS. If you moved or paid off this mortgageI do admit, all this math can become a bit tedious,
after five years you've actually lost $3,982.92.especially when looking at several different points in
This is because the difference in loan balances (whattime for several different offers. If your interested in a
you would have to pay-off) is greater early in the loan.great alternative to doing all of this math manually, you
And the monthly payment savings can only showshould check out the Trend Master Refinance
benefit once the steadily accelerating decline in theCalculation Tool. It will do all of this math in a flash and
principal balance of the NEW loan has been given timeshow you in a user friendly way, exactly how your
to catch up to where the balance of the OLD loanmortgage will affect you. It's really a fantastic tool. You
would be at that time. (This will make more sensecan find out more by following the link provided below.
when I show you how to calculate this for yourselfAdvice From A Former Mortgage Professional
shortly.)I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE you to create tables of
There is an upward trend in savings as time moveseach of your loan comparisons over several different
on, going from the negative, upward into the positive.points in time. Seeing the trends visually can be truly
So for this refinance to save you money, you mustenlightening. Keep in mind the length of time you plan
STAY in your mortgage until that trend line flips fromon staying in the home. I also highly, HIGHLY
the negative side of losses to the positive side ofrecommend you get multiple, read many, quotes from
savings. But again, this information fails to bedifferent lenders. A "Good Deal" means not only
considered when using the 2% Rule as a when toputting yourself in a better financial position, but also
refinance rule of thumb. Clearly, relying on the 2% Rulegetting the best value in the current market.
as a when to refinance rule of thumb is no guaranteeTHINK about that last sentence for a minute.
of savings.If a 2% interest decrease saves you $300 a month
When To Refinance Rule Of Thumb Myth #2and $10,000 long term, is it a "Good Deal?" What if
I promised you two when to refinance rule of thumbanother lender was offering a 3% decrease at that
myths and I won't disappoint. The second myth thattime and it saved you $600 a month and $40,000 long
could cost you thousands of dollars is what I will referterm? Is the first offer still a "Good Deal" or a "Not So
to as, for brevity's sake, the $200/month & 5Good Deal?"
Year Rule. This rule states that if you can refinanceLook at it another way, if you bought a $60,000 car
into a mortgage that saves you at least $200 everyfor $50,000, and then saw it somewhere else for
month AND doesn't add more than five years to the$35,000, regardless of how much money you saved,
remaining term on your current mortgage, then it willyou'd still probably feel cheated. That's because deep
save you money in the long run. The problem with thedown you know you got a deal, but NOT a "Good
$200/month & 5 Year Rule as a when toDeal."
refinance rule of thumb is that, like the 2% Rule, it isYou should always explore the market. Multiple offers
blind to many of the same loan factors such as thehelp give ALL of the offers a sense of scale and
impact of time and loan balances. But where the 2%value. Utilize the methods I have given you here. Use
Rule was blind to monthly savings, the $200/monthmy Mortgage Payment Calculator to assist you.
& 5 Year Rule is instead blind to interest rate.Always DO THE MATH and look at the trends over
Let's check out some actual figures and see if this ruletime. Information is power.
fares any better than the 2% Rule.Use the tools that work and throw out the tools that
In this example, let's assume 15 years ago you tookdon't. Oversimplified when to refinance rules of thumb
out a fixed rate home mortgage for $211,000 at 6%are tools that don't work. The Trend Master Refinance
for 30 years. Your CURRENT balance on the loan isCalculation Tool is a tool that does work. Follow the link
$149,910.62. You have 15 years left to go and thebelow to learn more about what it can do for you. You
payment on this mortgage is $1,265.06 per month. Ifowe it to your pocketbook to at least check it out.
you input these figures into my Mortgage PaymentAnother suggestion is to contact actual lenders. You're
Calculator you'll see that the total amount of moneynot obligated to anything until you sign at closing and it
you will pay in principal and interest over the life of thiscosts nothing to get a quote. Get the
loan is $455,413.17. Over the last 15 years, the 180Good-Faith-Estimate and the Truth-in-Lending
payments of $1,265.06 you've made total $227,710.80.statements from each lender. They are REQUIRED
Subtract this from the total cost of $455,413.17 and weBY LAW to provide them within 3 business days of
see you still owe $227,702.37 over the next 15 years.application. Also ask for an amortization schedule as
As before, this becomes our starting point forwell, since it will show you the loan balances over time.
comparison.A final word. There are some fantastic online services
The lender comes back with a debt consolidation loanthat take most of the work out of mortgage shopping
offer in order to provide the $200 monthly savings.today. You can fill out just one online application and
Again we'll assume you're paying off $20,000 in creditget back multiple offers very quickly. At that point you
card and other consumer debt, which frees up $250can apply my methods for each offer over several
each month. So the offer is a fixed rate mortgage ofpoints in time and really see what action is best for
$175,900 at 6% which includes the 2 discount pointsyou. And you should REPEAT this process until you
and closing fees which are being financed. In order toare satisfied you have a "Good Deal."
get the $200 monthly savings, it is necessary toRemember, it's not you against the banks, it's the
extend the TERM to 20 years, and this makes yourbanks against each other! That's your LEVERAGE!
monthly payment $1,260.21. This is a monthly savingsUse it!
of $4.85 over your PRESENT payment and you'rePass this information on to everyone you know. If we
also saving $250 per month due to debt consolidationall know how to make informed decisions and spend
for a total savings of $254.85 each month. Using eithermoney wisely, we add stability to our economy and to
my Mortgage Payment Calculator or your TIL we canour future.
see that the total cost of this NEW loan is $302,446.81